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It's true! Finally an LED product that combines the quality and warranty of the "Big Boys" and a price that compares to neon.
We know, we're sign people just like you. We have been in the full-service sign business for 20+ years and have tried nearly every product on the market in attempt to find something that combines bright consistant light, easy install, a solid warranty and a price that allows us to set ourselves apart from others who haven't found this product yet. We found it!
TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO READ THIS POST. IT'S WORTH YOUR WHILE. YOU'LL FIND OUT WHY WHEN YOU GET TO THE END OF THE POST.
We've tried the "cheap" LED's that we had to rip out and replace for free. That cost us thousands in labor and materials.
We've bid jobs with the "name" brands but we nearly always seem to get priced out.
We are betting that the same has had happened to you. We can help.
After a nearly exhaustive product search over the past 7 years, we found the right product and after 2 years of using the product across the US (Arizona, Utah, Washington, Milwaukee, Florida and other states) WITH ZERO FAILURE and dimming percentages that exceed the industry standard, we decided to form a seperate corporation, SIGN LIGHTS, INC. so we could offer the same product to other sign companies.
The Luxembright product comes in Standard (3 LED modules per foot), Economy (2 LED modules per foot) and even a "Mini" product for those tight fitting places.
Colors include White, Warm White, Red, Amber/Yellow, Orange, Blue and Green.
The product comes in 50' continuous reels. You can cut the lead wires in between modules at any point to begin or end a run.
Each module comes with sign industry quality double-backed taped already applied to it. Just take off the backing, stick the module on the letter back or the sidewall (we do both depending upon the application), connect to your 12V power supply and you have illuminate letters or signs.
Luxembright products are UL recognized and the manufacturer is listed in the UL SAM (Sign Accessories Manual).
This is not a cheesy product from some new kid on the block. The manufacturer has been been manufacturing is own LED lighting products for the Medical, Dental, Forensic and Architectural markets for many, many years. About 5 years ago they decided to explore making some R&D changes to current products in order to utilize them for the signage industry.
I am not going to get in to pricing here on the site. I can tell you that you won't just be happy, you will be shocked at combination of quality and price.
In order to entice you to give the Luxembrite product a try, we are offering all products, to first time users, at 20% off the standard retail prices.
Sign Lights, Inc. webiste is in the works but we have product available now.
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If you prefer give us a call at 321-863-2791 or shoot us an email at Sales@SignLightsInc.com and we will get back to you with product brochures, Data Sheets Warranty information and pricing.
Try it once and you will never use another LED product for channel letters again!
Thanks for your time.
The quality of the LED's in the signs does matter quite a bit, especially with white. For whatever reason, the white LED signs tend to burn themselves out more quickly.
I suppose it's because they "burn" hotter? In my smaller, window-front signs, I have the best luck with red, amber, and green. Blue lasts, but it's not as visible/bright.
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Try it once and you will never use another LED product for channel letters again! [/quote]
No offense, but I highly doubt that.
I've seen this product and it's substandard, IMHO. The use of 5mm T1-3/4 LEDs is just wrong for channel letter applications, no matter how many you cluster into a module. They don't last as long and they don't spread light very well. You may find it better than other cheap offshore products, but there are MANY products out there that do the job better.
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Try it once and you will never use another LED product for channel letters again! [/quote]
No offense, but I highly doubt that.
I've seen this product and it's substandard, IMHO. The use of 5mm T1-3/4 LEDs is just wrong for channel letter applications, no matter how many you cluster into a module. They don't last as long and they don't spread light very well. You may find it better than other cheap offshore products, but there are MANY products out there that do the job better.[/quote]
Here's the thing you aren't explaining in your post YYZ: You are offering a competing product. I would have been able to offer my own "humble" opinion on your product but there's no viewable content on your website for myself, or anyone, to be able to see what your product lign is.
The Luxembrite product has specific uses based upon the way it's manufactured. No single LED product is adequate to illuminate signage in every possible application. That said, Luxembright works wonderfully in channel letters under most circumstances. The light is as consistantly colored and as bright as any/all of the competition. Plus the warranty offered is as good as it gets. Add to the mix that Luxembrite LED modules are far less expensive than the more well known products and you have the best value available to the sign industry today.
Sign Lights, Inc. branched off of a mid-sized Sign Company. We know the Luxembright LED product because we utilized it and tested it for 2 years in signs and letters across the country and had absolutely NO problems. We had no intent of becoming a distributor but ultimately, we were so impressed with the product that we wanted to tell others about it.
All products can be picked apart. There are pros and cons for each of them but we have personally put the Luxembright products side by side with Sloan, GE and other LED module products and the Luxembright products are equal to or superior in every manner.
BTW... We will be offering the Dynasty CL product, also manufactured by CAO Group, starting in December. The Dynasty CL casts light 360 degrees out the sides, as opposed to the top. When certain signage applications won't allow for the use of Luxembright then the Dynasty CL will fit the bill.
As someone who has utilized the Luxembright product for years, without ever having even one LED module fail or dim faster than industry standards, I am happy to take on anyone who wants to debate the quality of the Luxembright line of LED products. Go to our website, www.SignLightsInc.com and look at the product data sheets. Then compare them to the more well known LED products. That information combined with actual product use over an extended period of time makes us more than comfortable in offering Luxembright LED products to sign companies.
Sign companies want LED products that are bright, reliable, easy to install, include a solid warranty and they want the product to be cost efficient at the same time. The Luxembright LED product line offers all of those qualities and that pretty much says it all.
Good luck with your endeavor YYZ.
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THIS CHANNEL LETTER SET IS ILLUMINATED WITH THE LUXEMBRIGHT ECONOMY LED MODULE. M = 48"
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Yes - we manufacture LED products - but at no point did I mention our products, or infer we have something superior. I said "many products" do a better job which I stand by.
I was quite clear what the reasoning was in forming my opinion also - the fact remains that the TYPE of LED used is weaker, the angle of light emission is too narrow and the color is often far too blueish for most customers. I suspect this is because you can't possible be using a top tier LED supplier, or even a second tier supplier. Only a low grade diode could be used if there are 10 pieces to a module, that aren't very bright, and that sell for so little - it's just not possible for this to be a product that is comparable with stuff like Gelcore, Agilight, etc... I know this because a company in Canada put your stuff side-by-side with several other channel module products and it became very evident that two of the products were completely inadequate, and the LuxemBrite was one of them - for the reasons I listed. I have visited your booth at 2 different trade shows and even the samples in the booth had "mottling" on the face from that modules in behind.
But - I should probably apologize for the way I questioned the product so directly in public. It's best to leave it to the market to decide what they like and if they are accepting of your product, it's entirely their choice in a free market.
I appreciate the debate, actually.
You say the LED quality is not good and the angle is poor and whatever else you brought to the table.
Are you a sign manufacturer? Have you ever built a sign and utilized Luxembright LED modules in a sign? Or for that matter have you actually utilized any brand of LED in a sign that you have built?
I am a sign manufacturer first and a Luxembright distributor second. Again, we USE THE LUXEMBRIGHT LED MODULES ON A DAILY BASIS. They put out a great amount of light, they are bright, the color is consistant, the warranty meets or exceeds that of any competing product line and they cost far less than what the big boys want to get your hands on to the products you mentioned in your previous post.
[b]Not sure about you but when I can get a really good product for less money, I usually take advantage of that.[/b]
BTW... When you get your website working I would love the opportunity to compare product lines. You can send me a sample and I will send you one. Then we can each do a side by side comparison and see how that goes.
Thanks for your input. Too many sign companies are not taking advantage of LED products and these forums are great for people to be able to follow along and gain some solid insight.
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Actually yes - I have been bouncing between the sign and lighting industries since 1994. I have built MANY signs ranging from car magnets to boxes, channel letters and pylons, and it's my "sign guy" instincts combined with my "lighting guy" experience that gives me a solid foundation from which to speak from.
Prior to making our own stuff, I have used many of the big name products in some way and continue to collect samples for comparison. I haven't purchased any Luxembrights because I've seen them in person, side by side with other brands (including ours) and didn't think it was worth the expense. I don't normally bother chasing down "mainland" grade products (which CAO falls into), though I do have samples from a dozen or so Chinese manufacturers who try to peddle their stuff to us... and you see them on many of these "buy led" websites or in booths of these speculator companies that show up at the shows each year trying to sell on price. CAO is a level above those in terms of company, status, etc... but not on the level of the "quality" firms that I would trust as a sign manufacturer. Even the data on your own website says the White modules has a 9000k color temperature and has an expected life of only 3 years. Not even hours like most inflate, but years.
I won't debate with you any further, though - at least not publicly. You've reminded me that since our website is currently a mess, that I should probable remove the link.
[quote="stillman young"]hmmmm!!! no more public debate, and in my case no info[/quote]
Stillman, I am assuming you are directing that to YYZ?
I, personally, am happy to continue to debate the superior value of the Luxembright LED product line with any and all that have something to bring to the table.
If you requested information from me, I haven't seen any request but I would value the opportunity to provide you with Luxembrite information and current promotional pricing. Just contact me and I will have it to you in a matter of minutes.
Sign Lights, Inc. provides significant technical data that is clearly posted on our website. Moreover, within the next week I will have photo, data and financial comparisons of the Luxembright product as compared to Sloan, GE and neon.
Each of the above products has it's advantages and disadvantages. It's my experience with Luxembright, as a sign manufacturer, that shows me Luxembrite combines the best over all combination of quality, color, brightness, warranty and price. I am confident that the additional information that we will continue to add to the website will help to sway others to the same conclusion.
I will leave the "ultra-technical" banter to those who are far more intelligent than I am.
For me it's all pretty simple: having the option to obtain a great product, with a great warranty and to get that at great pricing means people utilizing Luxembright can increase profit margins and rest easy about the product quality at the same time.
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[quote="stillman young"]hmmmm!!! no more public debate, and in my case no info[/quote]
I'm happy to share any info you ask for stillman - what I was suggesting was that I would step back from what could be perceived as an attack on a competitor. It's amusing for readers, but not exactly good business.
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